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Episode 9 - Hate Crimes

Coming to terms with one's sexual orientation can be a confusing and stressful time. Added to that, people of a different sexual orientation are being assaulted, raped, and bullied on a daily basis; causing them to feel unsafe in the townships where they live. These are known as hate crimes. Hate crimes are at their root based on ignorant discrimination against race, nationality, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation or HIV status. Siyayinqoba Beat It! investigates a particularly heinous kind of hate crime known as "curative rape", where the perpetrator is attempting to force a change in their victim's sexual orientation. Siyayinqoba Beat It! is never afraid of a challenge, and this week we bring you one of the most shocking and controversial subjects prevalent in South African society today: sexual violence and hate crimes.

Shalom Ncala: (SeSotho) Hello! We welcome you back to Siyayinqoba Beat It! The programme for everyone living with HIV, our family, friends, partners, colleagues and health workers. Welcome to the support group! Today we are speaking about a very serious issue- hate crimes. Hate crimes are violent crimes against people because they belong to particular social group, have a certain sexual orientation or come from a particular country. Hate crimes shows the prejudice that many of us have towards some groups. In hate crimes an individual is targeted because he or she is seen to belong to a particular group or have a certain identity. With us to discuss this topic, we have Phumi Mthethwa from the Gay and Lesbian Equality Project. Welcome Phumi

Phumi Mthethwa: Thank you Shalom hello

Shalom: However, let's take a look at a horrific story recently in the headlines first

Voice over: Ngo July 2007 izinkonkoni zabesifazane u-Sizakele Sigasa nomngane wakhe u-Salome Masosa bahlukunyezwa ngokochantsi baze babulawa e Meadowlands eSoweto. U-Sizakele watholwa ebojwe izandla namaqakala, enemigodi yezitlavu ezithathu ekhanda nase qobabeni. Ukuhlukunyezwa ngokochantsi nokubulawa kwabo kuyinxenye yalokho kuqhubekayo nokuyimbhangela yokuzodwa kwezi nkonkoni zabesifazane. (IsiZulu) In July 2007, 2 lesbian activists Sizakele Sigasa and her friend Salome Masosa were raped and murdered in Meadowlands Soweto. Sizakele was found with her hands and ankles bound with three bullet holes in her head and three in collar bone. Their rape and murders are part of a continuing and growing spate of hate crimes against lesbian.

Prudence Mabele: Comrades, I am very angry. E-South Africa uyathula ubheke uSalome no Sizakele and many others abantu bayabulawa. Asazi kwenzeni. Asizami njengomphakathi ukuthi sibambaneni ngezandla sihambeni siyokubiza ama ward councillors, siyobiza bonke labo bathi basiphethe ANC Women's League baphi? Amasonto aphi? Sikiphi ? Why so much killings. (IsiZulu) Comrades, I am very angry. In South Africa you watch and keep quiet. Sizakele and Salome and many more others are being killed. We don't know what's going on. We must try as a community to come together and call on our ward councillors, those in authority and the ANC Women's League to assist us. Where are they ? Where are we? Why so much killing?

Tumi Moleko: Our constitution states that all people have the right to dignity and equality. It doesn't matter their sexual orientation. Kodwa wonke amalanga ama hate crimes ayenziwa between ama lesbian nama gays. Sise POWA namhlanje ukukhuluma no Wendy Isaacs ngawo lama hate crimes. Manje Wendy kahla kahl i-hate crime yini? What is it ? (IsiZulu) Our constitution states that all people have the right to dignity and equality. It doesn't matter their sexual orientation. Everyday there are incidents of hate crimes happening to lesbians and gays. We speak to Wendy Isaacs from POWA about hate crimes. How do you define a hate crime? What is it?

Wendy Isaacs: The fundamental of it is, the perpetrator, the person committing the crime, is having biased, prejudicial, negative, emotional feelings against the person whom they killing. So when a person says I don't like homosexuals and they respond to that violently. The concept of hate crimes doesn't only apply to lesbian and gay people.(Amapolisa awa-investigati as I hate crime because ihate crime is not a crime in their law book. Ngekhe ufike uthi uzorepota ihate crime) Police won't investigate it as a hate crime because a hate crime is not a crime in the law books. You can't go there and say you're reporting a hate crime. It is not all men who attack lesbians. It is predominantly heterosexual men, it is heterosexual men. They do it because they want to cure lesbians of their sexuality. Of course, that comes along with not using a condom, because it is a patriarchal masculinity society and that kind of thing.

Funeral speaker 2: If the perpetrators are here, those creatures, I make you a promise today on behalf of my friend who you shot like you were shooting an animal. (phezulu kwalo mzimba yomgane wam eniwubhoboze ngongathi benibhoboza imbawula ) [IsiZulu] You will be found.

Speaker 3: It's about time that we change our thinking. It's about time that we listen to our children because we don't listen when they talk, when a child comes to you say mama I have this feeling. Don't talk nonsense. I am your mother. So our children will go to a place where they will be listened to. So mothers and fathers, let's open our eyes, our children are dying, while we sit on the judgment seat of righteousness, of holiness, while our children are dying. (SeSotho)

Shalom: This is one of the hardest part of this job(kulomsebenzi). Personally bengimazi uSizakele and akaze ngambona umuntu onomoya ophansti njengaye. Uthi yinto ebetheni aze agcine angalandlela ingayo and umuntu uposezwa yini. Into endifuna ukuyazi kahle kahle kune pattern na sekuyinto ehlala isenzeka noma is it because bengi close to the situation but angi understandi ukuthi how does it come about kube nento eso. Angazi noba ungasigcazela na? (IsiZulu) This is one of the hardest part of this job. I personally knew Sizakele and she was a very grounded person. I don't know why she ended up like that, or what drove that person to do that to her. I want to know if there is pattern or if this is something that happens all the time? Is it because I was close to her because I don't understand how all this came about? Maybe you can explain to us.

Phumi Mthethwa: Yinto ebuhlungu leya ngoba mawubheka into ka Sizakele no Salome yenzakala kumantombaza amnyama, angama lesbian angama activist. So abantu bayabona bakhonu ukuba identifier easily ukuthi babalandele. Yinto ongayibona futhi eKhayelitsha kune case afanayo eyomntwana ona 19years abamlandela bam raper then bambulala. Kwa Thema kucedakala ukwenzeka the same issue yaka Eudy Simelane. Bamlandele, kusa investigatwa ukuthi uratsiwe but ubulewe watholakala almost in the situation. I mean lana ngama cases esiwaziyo kodw uma ung bheka la eMzantsi kune kinga yodlame ebantwini besifazane generally. Kunenkinga yodlame ebantwini besifazane abaphila ne nculaza. Kunedlame ebantwini besifazane abaphumayo abangama lesbian. (IsiZulu) It is very sad, when you look at Sizakele and Salome's case. They were black, lesbian and activists.They were easily recognisable and they could be followed. In Khayelitsha there is a similar case where a 19 year old was raped and killed. In KwaThema the same thing happened with Eudy Simelane. They followed her, they are still investigating whether she was raped but she is also dead. We all know about these cases but in South Africa there is generally a problem with abuse towards women living with HIV. There is violence towards women who come out and say they are lesbian.

Luckyboy Mkhonzwane: Mina into engayi undestandi kuthi why should we judge size hambe sifike kwi extend size senze izinto ezi violent towards people regardless of ukuthi mhlawumbe si motivatwa kuthi ba belonger e grouping ethioze. Why singakwazi ukuthi si accepter each and every person ophilayo la emhlabeni ngoba angekhe size sifane. Some of us are HIV positive, some of us are homosexual some of us are from other countries. At the end of the day we are all human being . Why can't we just accept umuntu ophilayo njengo muntu simnike isidima afanele ukuthi asithole? (IsiZulu) What I don't understand is why we should judge up to the exerting violence towards other people regardless of what group they belong to? Why can't we just accept each and every person walking this earth because we are all different? Some of us are HIV positive, some of us are homosexual some of us are from other countries. At the end of the day we are all human being . Why can't we just accept all human being and give them the dignity they deserve?

Simphiwe Ngongoshe: Umuntu engidi yi perpetrator uma ezakwenza into komunye umuntu oyi human being like yena uma eza kumdlwengula ambulale, mhlawube kufuneka lanto iyi file. Those are human beings like thina sonke that is why umuntu kufuneka um accepter ubuyena bakhe ungan jaji (IsiZulu) To all the perpetrators, before they do these things to other human beings, before they rape and kill other people, they should put themselves in that position. Those are human beings just like the rest of us, that is why we should accept who they are and not be judgmental.

Shalom: Elokunjana nake endisakhumbula eyenzakayo ndendaba ka Lorna Mlofana laphaya eKhayelitsha. Ngoba wanguntu oyintombazana oyayephila nge HIV plus futhi bam rapa, vela wa discloser ukuthi une HIV. Bambulalela ukuthi ene HIV (IsiZulu) This reminds me of the Lorna Mlofana case in Khayelitsha. She was living with HIV and during her rape, she told the rapists thats she's HIV positive. They killed her because she had HIV.

Phumi: Uyabona kule case yaka Lorna into ekufanele siyi celebrater even if kubuhlungu so kukena siyibonile i-justice isebenza. Sibonike ukuthi baboshiwe ba prosecutwa bathola i-sentence ehigh. Kwi case ka Salome no Sizakele for example nanamhlanjesisa buza ama polisa ukuthi kwenzakalani basinekeza ukuthi siya investigate yabona. Into entle endiyibonile nge case ka Eudy Simelani KwaThema icommunity imobilazekile. Kufanele sibone ukuthi siza kuyi sustainer kanjani i-mobilisation enjalo epressuraza wonke amastructures e government but also nama structures e cilvil society nje general because until sithole ama convictions aazothumela umlayezo eshrp yokuthi it is wrong to do this, lezi zinto zohlala zizochubeka across the country. It's like another level of a pandemic. We have i-pandemic ye HIV, we have ipademic ye hate crime.(IsiZulu) With Lorna's case the one thing we can celebrate, even if it was a painful experience at least justice was served. The perpetrators were arrested prosecuted and they all got long sentences. In Salome and Sizakele's case, up to this day, when we ask the cops for progress all they say is that "we're still investigating". One nice thing I saw recently with Eudy Simelane's case in Kwa-Thema the community mobilized. We should find ways to sustain such community mobilization not only to put pressure on our government structures but also on our civil society structures, because until we get convictions that are going to send out a strong messages that it is wrong to do this, these crimes will continue across the country. It's another level of a pandemic. We have an HIV pandemic and a hate crimes pandemic.

Luckyboy: But kwezinye zeznto ezenzakalayo ema casini enjengalawo, you only find ukuthi icommunity ayi funi ukuba involve kuyo. Because basuke bazitsele ukuthi I'm not one of those people I'm not HIV positive, I'm not gay so why should I get involved ? So mina ngiyacabanga ukuthi yenye into eyenza ukuthi like izehlakalo ezinje zilokhu zanda because abantu abenza these very same things ngabantu abahlala kuwo loma communities lawo. Akheko umuntu ono nditsela ukuthi they don't know at all ukuthi ngubani abana idea ukuthi ngubani loo ongab ewenze lezizinto. Sometimes thina singumphakathi sibulalana sisodwa sibe silent ngezinto esizibona sisenzakala ngoba sithi azi affecti thina directly . Sifuna ukuthi size sithathe imove bangabe into seyenzeke kumntwana wasekhaya or seyenzakele kimi. (IsiZulu) What you find in other cases like these, is that the community doesn't want to get involved. They say " I'm not one of those people, I'm not HIV positive and I'm not gay so why should I get involved?" I think this kind of attitude contributes to those crimes because perpetrators are part of the very same communities. You can't tell me they don't know the people who commit these crimes. Sometimes we kill each other by being silent about things happening right before our eyes because they don't affect us directly. We only make a move once it happens to my siblings or to me.

Phumi: Niyasikhumbula islogan sabasebenzi sithi "An injury to one is and injury to all?"Nale yi message ekufuneka siyithathe akutso ukuthi if ever ngingumuntu wesifazane or angisiyo lesbian or HIV positive (IsiZulu) Do you remember the slogan " An injury to one is an injury to all ?" That's the stance we should be taking regardless of whether you're female, lesbian or HIV positive

Shalom: (SeSetho) We'll be right back! Stay with us!

Shalom: (SeSotho) Welcome back to Siyayinqoba Beat It! Today we are talking about hate crimes. Here is another story from KwaZulu Natal.

Similo Gobingca: Sanibonani namhlanje silana kwa -Mashu J Section sivakashele u-Nhlakanipho Magula, owahlaselwa ngumphakathi ngokuthi uyi gay. Ngawusitsele Nhlako kwenzakalani kuwe sikhathi beku attacker labafana? (IsiZulu) Hello, today, we're in KwaMashu, J Section, to see Nhlakanipho Magula, who was assaulted because he is gay. Can you tell us what happened when these boys attacked you?

Nhlakanipho Magula: Indaba yaqala nje ekuseni abafana la abakhona lapha endaweni belokho bengitso, vese nje yinto yayiqalwe ngoyedwa wabo njalo uma engibona akhulume ukungeyisa kumina so ngingabi nandaba ke mina ke ukuthi uthini. Waze wafika ngela langa endalimala ngalo bangenela ekhaya belokho bengithuka bengibiza ngayo yonke into abayoithandayo nokuthi ngiyi gay. Bangenela ekhaya base bengishaya. Ngafike ngaya epolice station, epolice station ngafike ke ngalivula icase. Ngasuka emva kwalokho ngabuya ngaza ekhaya ebusuku afika amapolisa aba bopha, kwatholakala abayi two. Ngahamba ngaya kumseshi ngoba kukhona ama forms ayi funwa uku siyinwa ngu dokotela ngiyolanda wona. Wawagcwalisa udokotela ngawaphindisela kuyena umseshi. Ngahlala emva kwalokho ngabona sebe phumile labafana labo . Umseshi engafiki la ekhaya uzongibheka nje zonke ezo zinto ukuthi icala linini. Ngiyacabanga ukuthi umseshi eliphatha kanje icala lam ngoba lapho ngi gay (IsiZulu) it all started one morning when they started calling me names. One of them had been calling me names every time he saw me in the streets, but I would just ignore him. On the day they attacked me, they came to my house, cursing and calling me all these things and shouting that I'm gay. They came inside the house and starting beating me. I went to the police station and I opened an assault case. I came home and that night two of them were arrested. Then I went to the investigating officer to fetch some forms that had to be filled out by a doctor. The doctor filled them out and I took them back to the investigator. I waited and after a while the two that had been arrested were released. The investigator never contacted me about the progress of my case. I think he didn't take any interest in my case because I'm gay.

Similo: Umphakathi wona wa reactor kanjani mase kuphuma loludaba lokuthi uhlaselwe ngokuthi u gay? (IsiZulu) What was the community's reaction after they learnt that you'd been attacked because you're gay?

Nhlakanipho: Laa ekhaya abanankinga nam ugogo, umama nobhuti bam bangi suppoter kakhulu.Abanakhinga and futhi bayabamkela abangane bam. La emphakathini bakhona abangangi khulumisi abanye bayangi khulumisa bayazwelana nam. Abanye abangikhulumisi. Ukusaba nginakho, angisakwazi ukuthi ngihmbe kahle ebusuku yabo. Ngoba abangane nam besithi sihlale sibuke emativini amamovie sisihlalele ngiyi buyele late. Manje sekhukhona abantu abangangi khulumisi sengiyasaba ngizokwenze njanni mhlawumbe bangangibamba ebusuku bangihlasele bangilimaze. (IsiZulu) At home they don't have a problem with me. My grandma, my mother and brother are very supportive. They don't have a problem and they also accept my friends. In the community some people don't talk to me. Some people feel sorry for me and do talk to me. The others don't talk tome. I am scared. I can't walk around freely at night. I used to visit friends and watch movies and come home late at night. Now I can't because of the people that won't talk to me. They might just attack me in the dark.

Shalom: Yaabona insert enje ngaleya iyinto eyothusa kabi. I think Luckyboy can actually relate to this. Because if ever ufila uphila kwi envioroment efana naleya yala mfanyana it's not safe. (IsiZulu) An insert like that is very shocking. I think Luckyboy can actually relate to this. If you live in an environment like that boy you never feel safe.

Phumi: Baningi abo Nkosinathi. Into ekufanele sizibuze yona amapoyisa uma enga investigate the kusasa bonke labantu bebem attacker sebengaphandle, bangaphandle benzani? Mhlawumbe abayenzi kuloo Nkosinathi but bayenza kwabanye oNkosinathi and kuma worse case scenario bazo ku raper bakubulale. (IsiZulu) There are lots of Nkosinathi's out there. The question we should be asking ourselves is, if the cops don't investigate and the attackers are released the next day, what are they doing outside? Maybe the won't attack Nkosinathi again ,but many others like him. In worst case scenario they rape and kill. alesed

Luckyboy: And izenzo ezinje esikhathini esininzi yizo ezibhebhethisa ukuthi ingculaza yande ezweni lethu. Kungayenzakala ngesinye isikhathi ukuthi uyi lesbian njengo Sizakele uphila nayo iHIV. The person will rape you, you get gang raped, okokuqala chances are abantu la abazusebenzisa ama condoms they will get infected. Mhlawumbe banabo abantu bakuma relationship nabo futhi uyazwizisa ot its something that they do, they are always raping people kanjalo igciwane liyanda (IsiZulu) These acts also contribute to the spread of HIV. You may also be lesbian and like Sizakele you may also be HIV positive. A person will rape you or you get gang raped, and changes are those rapists won't be wearing condoms and they will get infected. Maybe they're also in relationships with other people or it's something that they always do and so HIV infections spread. a HIV

Shalom: (SeSotho) We're taking a quick break. Be back now

Shalom: (SeSotho) Welcome back to Siyayinqoba Beat It! Today we are discussing hate crimes and how these crimes are neglected by the authorities. Our last story is from Khayelitsha in the Western Cape.

Luvuyo Nibe: Molweni babukeli emakhaya. Namhlanje silapha eMakhaza eKhayelitsha sithetha no Funeka Soldaat ezakusibalisela nge sitori sakhe. Icommunity ikuthatha njani njengoko isazi ukuba uyi lesbian and kudala waba yiyo? (IsiXhosa). Hello viewers at home. Today we are in Macassar, in Khayelitsha, talking to Funeka Soldaat. Let's hear her story. How does the community receive you as a lesbian?

Funeka Soldaat: Ukuqala kwam ukubona ukuthi ja really imeko ndiyayobamba ndiyayibona ngoku ukuthi ihamba njani akange kube lula kakhulu ngoba ndiye ndachaneka kwamsinyane. Ndahlatywa ngabafana khona I think ndayohlala esibhehlele ithuba na elininzi ndayotsho e-ICU ndaphuma .Kwalile later ndaphinda ndahlelwa yenye into ukuba ndizihambela eKhayelitsha ndi crossa ndisiya endlini ndisahlala ko E ngoko. Ndadibana nama owuthi xandiqala ukuthi ndeva ukuthi ikhona into ethethwayo ngam, xa ndiqala ukubheka nyani abe sele emaskile.Andibamba hayike ndizamile but the ngelishwa andi overcomer. Ayenza ke lonto yayo andi raper lama outhi. Ndemka ndaya epolice station, epolice station kuvele ipolisa lokuqala libuza ukuthu kwenzeka ntoni na, ndahowa sekulate. Ngoba lento yenzeka ngolwesihlanu late ngolwesihlanu kwakhona amapolisa andihoyayo. Kugcwele eSite B police station. Ndazama ukulixelela ipolisa and indlela endili xelela ngayo kugcwele icrowded police station kwabutya elinye ndaqonda exactly ukuba yintoni le yenzekayo. Emva koko I couldn't say epolice station ndaqonda hay'suka mandigoduke ndabaleka ndagokuda. (IsiXhosa) When things became clear to me in terms of my sexuality, things became difficult. I got stabbed by some guys and I was admitted to hospital for a few months. Later, another incident took place whilst I was walking from a friend's house in Khayelitsha. I walked pass some guys and as they passed me, I heard them talking about me, and when I turned around they came straight at me and overpowered me. They did their thing and raped me. When they were done, I went straight to the police station. At the police station, a policeman came and asked me what happened. They attended to me very late that Friday afternoon at Site B police station. I tried explaining myself and instead of assisting me, the policeman went back inside and another policeman came through. I knew exactly what was going on so I left the police station.

Vuyo: Ayenza as icurative rape or babe raper kwasamntu? (IsiXhosa) Do you think it was curative rape?

Funeka: Ayikho enye indlela endiyiyo and the way aba bantu ngoba once ndandihlatyiwe secondly now kwenzeka lento yaloo mrapo. I main issue yoba kwenzeke lento iyi one is ukuthi I just have to eep quite bayenza ngezo ndlela and I have told myself I can't do that. (IsiXhosa). First I got stabbed for being me, now I was raped for the same reason. I think the reason I was stabbed and raped was to change who I am and I was never going to do that.

Vuyo: Emva koba uratsiwe uye yazi douta ukuthi uyi lesbian okanye ustraight? (Isixhosa). Did being raped make you doubt your sexuality?

Funeka: It never indibeke kwi position endi nokuyi douta isexuality yam. No that was the only hint eyayikhona elifini yam until I die it's somethimg that is going to be there. Because kum three things ezenzekayo ukundi humiliate uvele undikhulule nje esithubeni. Okwesibini uthathe something ebalulekileyo ebomini bam i-dignity yam. Because kumna it was not just like vigina it no it was not that. Its just indlela umntu aku humiliate because eyona aim yayisenzwa ngama outi kukundibonisa ukuthi bandibonise ukuthi banayo i-power more than me. Ngokokugcinga kwabo mna ndizenza iouthi so bane power kunam bayenza lonto.(Isixhosa). never made me doubt my sexuality, but the rape is something that will trouble me forever. Three things happened that humiliated me. They undressed me in a public place. Secondly, they took something that was mine, my dignity, because for me it was more than them taking my vagina. Their main aim was to humiliate me to show me they had power over me, because they are men and I'm only acting like one.

Phumi: You bafethu Funeka is a very strong brave woman really. So siyayibona lento le ukuba iba yi pendemic ngoba ihlangene ihomophobia, lack of respect ye dignity yabantu besifazane ihlanganiswe ne sexism ubheke futhi ne lack of respect yabantu aba HIV positive. This is why ku exista i-campaign ye itriple seven campaign to end hate. Itriple Seven Campaign wa lontshwa following ukubulawa ka Sizakele no Salome abashona nge seven zika July 2007 hence the Triple seven Campaign. And icampaign yi coalition yama organisations nama network a over 30. Ofcourse onke ama organisations nabantu aba lasbian and gay, transgender and biosexulas . Kunama organisations wama women's organisations kunama organisations of people living with HIV/AIDS kunama human rights organisations. Ma ungabheka for example kwi case yakha Eudy. U-Eudy bamthola almost in a similar situation eyathola khona uSizakele last week. Ekesini ka Eudy for example ku mobilise not only triple seven campaign, ama gay and lesbian Kwa-Thema, ANC womwn's League namanye ama organisations angasi ama member etriple seven campaign. Uyabona because of all this mobilization and collaboration between the campaign and civil society organisations ne community in general. Kukhonle manje babotshiwe abantu abayi five bazo kustander itrial ba pleadile omunye uyakhonvesa. And kunabantu aba additional aba yi three abafuna kena ukuba charger futhi and investigation is going on. Labantu abyi five abayitholanga ibail baphakathi. We are pressuring i-state to make sure ukuthi kena abayitholi ibail labantu bahlale until kube neconviction that is appropriate for these terrible, terrible rape and murder yaka Eudy Simelani. (IsiZulu) Funeka is a very strong brave woman, really. We see this thing as a pandemic because it includes homophobia, lack of respect for women's dignity, sexism and lack of respect for people who are HIV positive. This is why we have the triple seven campaign to end hate crime. The campaign was formed after Sizakele and Salome were murdered on the 7th of July 2007. The campaign is a coalition of over 30 organisations and networks. This includes gays, lesbians, transgender and bisexual individuals. We have women's organisations, of people living with HIV, and human rights organisations. For example, if you look at Eudys' case. She was found last week in a similar situation as Sizakele. Not only was the triple seven campaign mobilised, but we also mobilised gay and lesbian organisations from KwaThema, the ANC women's league and other organisations. There's been collaboration between the campaign and the community in general.

Five people have been arrested and they are going to stand trial. They have pleaded guilty and one has confessed. The police are still looking for an additional three that they want to charge the investigation is still going on. The five were not granted bail and they are still in custody. We are putting the state under pressure to make sure they are not granted bail, until there's an appropriate conviction to this terrible, terrible rape and murder of Eudy Simelane

Busi Maqungo: Ukubana bayabanjwa aba bantu banikwe ityala okanye banikwe isigwebo esibafaneleyo bayokuhlala ngapha kwesitixo then lonto leyo izakuthumela umyalezo nakwabanye abantu abasayicingayo ukuyenza lonto leyo. Okanye ukuthi once you do into enjena isiphelo sakho wena kukuya ejele (IsiXhosa) If these people who commit these crimes are convicted and sent to jail, that will send a strong message to people who want to do the same things or once you commit crimes like these you will be sent to jail.

Phumi: You see that snap does bring am issues amaningi(alot of issues ) together., Uma ungabheka how we treat abantu who are not South Africans. How we treat abantu who are HIV positive, how we treat gay men and lesbian and transgender and yet we siyabona kukena impunity iningi kanjani. Into e-nice laphaya uyayibona imobilization enabantu abaningi ba together and so on but at the same time we are not enough. Its not enough voices speaking out. That is why people are getting away. And ofcourse kusasa yimi, sasa nguwe if ever sithulile.(IsiZulu) You see the snap does bring a lot of issues together. If you look how we treat people who are not South Africans. How we treat people who are HIV positive, how we treat gay men and lesbian transgender and yet we see impunity towards them. It's nice to see this mobilization and coming together of organizations but at the same time we are not enough, its not enough voices that are speaking out that is why people are getting away. If we keep quiet, tomorrow it might be you, or it might be me.

Shalom: (SeSotho) Hate crimes are a sad reality in our country. Violence in our communities spreads HIV. Communities need to get active and report hate crimes. It's important that communities do not protect the perpetrators of crimes such as these. (Siyakuthokozela ukuthola uvo nenichabango yenu. Sibhaleleni kweli kheli elivele kumabona kude wenu manje. Noma uma ufuna ukubuka kabanzi ngaloluhlelo ungazifundela kwi website yethu www.beatit.co.za . Protect yourself Protect others Bye bye! ) We love your comments and suggestions. Drop us a line on the details on your screen now. If you want to learn more about this programme, check out our website at www.beatit.co.za Protect Yourself and Protect Others .