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Episode 21 - Teen pregnancy

One in three South African girls fall pregnant before their 20th birthday. In a country with a generalised HIV epidemic as big as ours these statistics are alarming. According to the South African Medical Research Council's (MRC) latest national survey, 16% of pregnant teenagers are HIV positive. The problem is not uniform throughout the country. There are "hotspots" where the problem is more prevalent. In Gauteng for instance the problem doubled from 2005 to 2006 despite a decade of AIDS education in schools. In some areas nurses are also reluctant to give contraception to teenagers and this, although not addressing the risk of HIV infection, does contribute to the large number of teenage unwanted pregnancies. All of these issues are tackled and discussed in this week's episode of Siyayinqoba Beat It!

Shalom Ncala: Sanibonani babukeli siyanamukela ku Siyayinqoba Beat It! Uhlelo lwawo wonke umuntu ohlangabezana nonqoba izintselelo zesandulela ngculaza. Namhlanje sikhuluma ngokuphakama  kwamazinga okukhulelwa kwamantombazananyana  esemancane kule lizwe lakithi. Uma amantombazana amancane ekhulelwa lokhu kungatsho ukuthi aya echantsini olungavikelekanga, lokhu njengokuba sisazi kwenza ukuthi aziveze kakhulu emathubeni okusuleleka ngesandulela ngculaza. Samkela ithimba elikhuthazayo. Hi guys (IsiZulu) Hello and welcome to Siyayinqoba Beat It! The programme for everyone meeting and beating the challenges of HIV/AIDS. Today we're talking about the high levels of teenage pregnancy in our country. If young girls are falling pregnant they must be having unprotected sex, and this, as we know, exposes them to HIV infection. Welcome to the support group. Hi guys.

Support group: Hello Shalom

Shalom: Akhe sithathe ukubheka kuloludaba oluvela e-Winterveld eRhawutini. (IsiZulu) Let's take a look at this story from Winterveld in Gauteng.

Mxolisi Mgobhoza: Namhlanje silapha eWinterveld size ku Thandi azosixelela ukuthi ukowupha njani. U-Thandi una 17 years uzakusixelela ukhowupha njani nomntwana wakhe osandula ukuvela. (IsiXhosa) Today we are here in Winterveld to visit 17 year old Thandi who will be telling us how she copes with her new-born baby.

Thandi Sepeng: Umama wam wathi ngigeza athi wena "why isibhono sakho sikhula?"ngathi " Angazi ma" Amane amalanga aya umem esikolweni wangibiza wathi Thandi hlala ngaya. Wangitsela  athi wangibuza  mara wena awu preg. Ngathi No angikho preg mina. Ceda phela athi okay  ngahamba. Umama wam wangitsela ukuthi mangiye ekliniki then ngaya ekliniki bangitseka  vele ngathola ukuthi ngi preg ngemphela ngatsela umama wami. (IsiZulu) One day when I was taking a bath, my mother asked me, "why is your stomach growing?" I said, "I don't know mother." As time went by teachers at school notice and asked me if I was pregnant. I said "No". My mother told me to go to the clinic And they confirmed I was preganant .

Evan Sepeng: Mina u-Thandi kutso ukuthi ngumntwana vele othembekele kakhulu lomtwana yabona. Manje bending qondisisanga noma lokuthi isikhathi azithola ukuthi uzithole kanjani. Kutso ukuthi ngumntwana ostaya la ekhaya asingumntwana ebehamba hamba so. (IsiZulu) Thandi is very trustworthy so I was wondering how she fell pregnant. She is always at home and doesn't go out much.

Mxolisi: Kunjani ukuba ngubaba? (IsiZulu) How does it feel to be a father?

Boyfriend: Hayi kuyathokozisa. (IsiZulu) It brings lots of happiness

Mxolisi: Kutheni beningasebenzi icondom? Kunzima ukusebenzisa icondom? (IsiZulu) Why were you not using condoms? Is it difficult to use condoms?

Boyfriend: Ewe. (IsiZulu) Yes it is.

Thandi: Bekuthi bengngazimiselanga . Ukuzimisela khona ngiyazimisela. Mara kumane kwenzeke nje. (IsiZulu) It was not my intention. It just happened.

Mxolisi: Awuyesabi ingculaza? (IsiZulu) Aren't you afraid of AIDS?

Boyfriend: Hayi proble engim trusta (IsiZulu) No, I trust her.

Thandi: And then futhi icondom beyingekho  futhi lapho. (IsiZulu) Then again, we didn't even have a condom.

Evan: And so ngithanda ukuthi u-Thandi vele aqhubeke ayephambili ngemfundo zakhe. Into le ibiliphutha abeyenzile for umntwana. Umntwana ngiyamukela and umntwana yena ngiyakusoloko ndimthanda naye vele u-Thandi ndohlala ndimthanda. (IsiZulu) I'd like to see Thandi finish school despite this mistake of having a child.  I accept the child and the love the child and I will always love Thandi.

Thandi: Umama noBaba azange bangithethise or bayenzani hayi. Abangithethisanga abangenzanga ni. Bangitselile nje ukuthi into endizenzile vele, bangitselile ukuthi ngenze imistake and so on and on. And hayi ngoku sengibonile ukuthi kunjani ngesasi khathi bengingaboni izinto zonke lezi bengizenza khona manje sendiyabona ukuthi ukuba pregnant ufola pregnant asingumhlalo . And then ukukhulisa umntwana nokhona futhi asingumdlalo.  (IsiZulu) My mother was never angry with me because she knows it was a mistake. At the time, I saw nothing wrong with what I was doing. But, I realized now that falling pregnant and raising a baby is no child's play.

Shalom: Why did these happen to this girl? What is going on in schools? Xa abantwana bezakuba pregnant  bebancinci?  (IsiXhosa) Why did these happen to this girl? What is going on in schools when these young children are falling pregnant?

Luckyboy Mkhondwane: It's something eyenzakalayo and it seems as if as isociety yizinto esigcina zizi accepta.  As ubona nomama like akabonisi une worry ukuthi kuzokwenzakalani sine sokuno mntwana. Its something more like acceptable you can fall pregnant at 15 at 17 it's normal now. (IsiZulu) It's something that's happening and it seems as a society we accept it. As you saw her mother is not really worried now that there is a baby. It's like something that is acceptable. It's ok to fall pregnant at 15, at 17, its normal now.

Pholokgolo Ramothwala: (SeSotho) There other problem I have is the availability of condoms. There's a possibility that condoms aren't available at schools and   that could be reason why she said she didn't have a condom. But the message I got from the insert is that unfortunately she learnt the consequences after having a child. How is the child going to grow up when she has to go to school?

Nokubonga Yawa: Njembana kubuzwa into yokubana icondom yayiphi uthi hayi kwakungekho condom ecaleni kwabo uya understander. Kuchacile ukubana unayo i-information  uyayazi intobana uyayi sebenzisa icondom but ibingekho. Then kutheni lento engathi hayi masiyeke singayenzi xa icondom ingekhonyo. Ibingeyo mistake and two mamakhe kange ndimve esithi hayi ndakhe ndathetha naye before into yokubana xa uthe wathi wathi uzakumitha akhange ndimve tu. But eyona nto ke seyiphambili yeyokubana uThandi uyatsho hayi ndixelelwe ngezinto ezirongo endizenzileyo, uxelelwe after seyenzekile yonke lanto. (IsiXhosa) She was asked why she didn't use a condom. She said there was no condom close at hand. This means she has the information and knew they were supposed to use a condom, but there wasn't one. Then why didn't she just say, "No let's stop because there's no condom."It was not a mistake. Secondly, I didn't hear her mother saying that she spoke to her about sex and falling pregnant. I didn't hear anything like that. But Thandi say she was told that what she did was wrong.  But she was told this after she fell pregnant.

Shalom: Into endineworry ngayo mna ngubaba womntwana makethi hayi yena ebemtrusta. You can't trust people at face value uzitsele wena ukuthi hayi cha wena ngekhe uze uyithole I HIV kusibanibani ngoba uyambona usibanibani ufat urite iskin sakhe siya glower. It's not about that. There is HIV and exists. (IsiZulu) What worries me is that she said she trusts the child's father. You can't trust people at face value and tell yourself you can't get HIV from so and so because they are fat their skin is glowing.  It's not about that. There is HIV and exists.

Busi Maqungo: And I think nabo abantwana ezikolweni yeyona nto bayi acknowlejayo  that it is a major problem i-teenage pregnancy ezikolwni zabo. Because xa sisenza ezi education ne peer educators mhlawumbi ngelasuku lokuqala we would ask them zintoni abafuna ukuthi si dealishe nazo iskakhulu kule workshop. They would come up into yokuqala izaba yi teenage pregnancy. Yeyona nto bayibona ikwizinga elikhulu nangaphezulu kwayo yonke into. So baya acknowleja  lonto and I really don't think mna ukuba bonwabile ngayo iyabonwabisa. (IsiXhosa) I think children at schools also acknowledge that teenage pregnancy is a major problem at schools. Because when we do workshops with peers educators, we ask them what they would like us to deal with in the workshop. They would come up with teenage pregnancy. It's the biggest problem they have. So they acknowledge that and I don't think they are happy about it.

Luckyboy: Siyazi ukuthi the earlier you start having sex the higher ama chances wakho okuthi njengomuntu wesifazane uthole ama infections anje ngo ma HPV kanje which can lead kwabo cervical cancer. And also enye into ibane impact like kwi future yakho nanjenge teenager who fall pregnant. Never mind if maybe amapolicies we Department of Education aya allower  ukuthi you can still go to school whilst your pregnant. But the concern is bangaki abantwana  who are able to finish their studies uya understander being pregnant? Because now you have a responsibility yomntwana  you have to go to school you have to study. Ivele ibe complicated its like now uyasuka from the  level yoba ngumntwana and now sowu ngu mama and you are a child at the same time. There responsibilities of being a mother a parent yalo mntwana and still nawe usese wumntwana, you still need care from your parents. And also nje ngitsilo like there other health factors uya understand. Even being exposed kwi HIV. (IsiZulu)The earlier a woman starts having sex the higher her chances are of getting infections like HPV, which can lead to cervical cancer . It also has an impact on the future of the teenager who fell pregnant. Never mind the fact that the Department of Education's policies allow you to go to school whilst pregnant. My concern is how many children are able to finish their studies whilst pregnant? Now you have a responsibility of a child, you have to go to school and study. It becomes complicated, you stop being a child and become a mother. At the same time you are still a child and you have a responsibility of being a parent to this child. You are still a child and need care from your parents. As I said there are other health factors. Even being exposed to HIV.

Shalom: Unganyakazi sisathatha ikefu, siyabuya maje. (IsiZulu) Don't go away. We'll be right back

Shalom: Siyanamukela futhi ku Siyayinqoba Beat It! Namhlanje sikhuluma ngenkinga yokhulelwa wantombazanyana esemancane kule mihla kule lizwe. Akhe siye KwaZulu Natal manje khe siyobona ukuthi izingane zesikolo sifundiswani ngogcantsi, isandulela ngculaza kanye nokukhulelwa . (IsiZulu) Welcome back to Siyayinqoba Beat It! Today we're talking about the problem of teenage pregnancy in our country.  Let's go to KwaZulu Natal and see what school children are taught about sex, HIV and pregnancy.

Merisha Lalla: Today we are in a Life Orientation classroom (can't hear  the name of the school) talking to learners about teen pregnancy

Derby Mamela: Uyabona nawe nje ukuthi akukuhle kahle ukukhulelwa kwegane sibonile laa esiolweni baningi angithi. Saze safo ne class lokhuthi sibafundise  omama bahamba beyobeletha bese baya buya. Wena ngokwako ungumfundi ku right ukuba ingane yesikole ikhulelwe ibuye izoku phusha isisu kuright? Ukukuvikela lokho ke nakuke seyi pregnant imistake seyenzekile vele. The child is pregnant she is only 15 shame. How can we prevent that? Singakuvikela kanjani lokho? (IsiZulu) We've seen a lot of pregnant teens here at school. We even formed a class that allows them to come back to school after giving birth. Do you think its right to be at school walk around with a big tummy? Is it okay?  Okay so it happened, the child is only 15 years old and she's pregnant. How could we prevent that from happening again?

Student  1: Ngokwami  ukubona kungavikeleka ngokuthi eyikolweni njeba vele sitselwa nje ngengculaza ukuthi zingajarhi izinto zabantu abadala zijelwe lonke iqiniso eyikolweni jengoba linjalo. Ukuthi kumele zenze njani nakanjani na. Labo sebevichwe bajarhe ekunza ucantsi kufanele bayifikele ngeyijasi. (IsiZulu) I think it can be prevented in the same way we are taught how to prevent AIDS, by telling them not to rush into having sex because they are not ready. Those that cannot abstain should use condoms.

Merisha: Do you think that there is pressure either from parents, friends and community about having a baby once you finish school or once you reach a certain age you need to have a baby. Is there a status that comes in being a mother or a father?

Student 2: Kukhona ukuphoqheleka okukhulu  ngoba kwenzeka mhlawumbi okokuba uphuma emdenini ohluphekayo manje bafuna ukuthi utsate. Umkwenyana yena athole imali ngoba bayahlupheka bafuna ukuqhubeka kahle.  (IsiZulu) There is a lot of pressure if you come from poor family and they want you to get married because they need the money from the son-in-law.

Student 3: I teenage pregnancy starts with peer pressure ngoba abangane bakho laba othi uhleli nabo uthola ukuthi bona  bane relationship yabo. Besekuthi oyedwa eba pregnant besithi yena une ngane just because ubaba wengane umkhombise ukuthi umthanda kanjani. (IsiZulu) I think teenage pregnancy starts with peer pressure. If your friend is in a relationship and falls pregnant, she says she has a baby because it shows how much her boyfriend loves her.

Merisha: Teenagers are engaging in sex so maybe do you think condoms demonstrations should be included in the syllabus?

Student 4: Kumele ku demonstatwe la eskolweni ngoba aba teenagers a curious iyinto eyiningi sifuna ukuzazi. Sifuna uku experimenta ngempilo zethu, so okungcono sikhonjiswe la esikolweni ukuthi zisebenza kanjani kwenzakalani. Khone sizokwazi ukuthi siyenza lonto leyo siyazi ukuthi sizifaka eriskini engakanani. And the ama condoms are not 100 percent safe but we agree on that but kukhona ama instances la athi khona a-protect. (IsiZulu) Condoms should be demonstrated at schools because teenagers are curious and we want to experiment. It's better if we are shown here at school, so we know what to do when we do whatever we do. We'll know what the risks are. And even though condoms aren't 100% safe, it is still a form of protection.

Merisha: We are talking about condoms, we are talking about teen pregnancies and all of that is associated with no boys seems to have an opinion on this and I want to know why the boys are so quite when it comes to teen pregnancy. Boys

Boy 1: Abafana kumele basebenzise ama condoms ukuse kunga mithi amantombazana amaningi ngoba umfana esikhathini esininzi uyamithisa intombazana mase eyishiya kanjalo. (IsiZulu) Guys should wear condoms because they impregnate girls then desert them.

Boy 2: Ukuthi ku discipline abafana ngoba abafana bajwayele ukuthi ba force amantombazana ukuthi aye ecantsini njengokuthi uGloria eketso especially ma umfana emdala. (IsiZulu) Men need to be disciplined because older men force woman to have sex.

Boy 3: Urite uSizwe umesithi abafana kumele ibengabo aba discipline wayo . Nokuthu kumele basebenzise ama condoms, bawasebenzise ama condom not batselwe ngamantombazana about HIV ne wonke nama virus.  (IsiZulu) I think Sizwe is right, guys need to be discipline. They should be the ones using condoms to prevent HIV.

Derby: So ngamanye amazwi uyavuma ukuthi ama condoms kufanelekile ukuthi a-introduswe eyikolweni kufundiswe ngawo amacondom, kubekhona indlela eku demonstratwa ngayo on how to use it uyayivuma lonto leyo. So lokho kunga limit ipregnancy yamantombazana. Oh that is good. (IsiZulu) In other words, you agree you should be educated about condoms at school so that girls can avoid falling pregnant. That is good.

Luckyboy: I believe ukuthi thina as isociety or as abantu abadala especially teachers, sese nalantoo sivele sicabange ukuthi ngabantwana abasebancane we can tell them up to this far. And  then umasifikela ku enough kanti mina ngikholelwa ekuthini the more explicit and more open ubangayo uma umuntu e decida ukuthi uthatha eyiphi i-decision uzakuthathat i-decision ayaziyo e-informed uyazwisisa. Indaba yama condom njembhukhuluma nge abstinence uku delayer ukuzibandakanya ecatsini nama condom ayikho kwi level linganayo. Ku pushwa kakhulu indaba yoku abstainer. Then kuthiwe ungasebenzisa ama condom mawubona ukuthi awukhoni uku abstainer. But then i-availability yawo ama condoms okokuqala eyikolweni, eyikolweni eyiningi awatholakali kuzo. (IsiZulu) I believe that we as society or as older people especially teachers, we think that they are young children and we can only tell them this much. When we reach a certain point it is enough. I believe the more explicit and the more open you are, when they make that decision, it will be an informed one. With regards to condoms, abstinence and delaying sex, they are not on the same level. The main focus is on abstinence. Then they say you should use a condom if you think you can't abstain. But then the availability of condoms at schools is a problem. At most schools they are not available.

Pholokgolo Ramothwala: (SeSotho) The message or the language we use as parents is an issues. The role of the child when he's at school and the information that he gets is one thing. What happens when he gets home? They don't want to talk about HIV. How do we create a balance message so that the message they get at home is the same one they get at school. Abstain. If you can't abstain, use condom equally. Don't say one is better than the other.

Nokubonga: I think mna ititshalo ze life orientation zidinga zona kuqala njengokuba usitsho ukuthi nibengumtu omncinci ozokwazi ukufikeleleka ebantwaneni aba. And again asiwe kwi traning. Wofumanisa ukuthi ititsala ezininzi ezenza i-life orientation abazi niks. Umntu uphelele ukuthi athethe lento iphambi kwakhe anifundele yona akasoze anigcacisele tuu. Akayazi ukuthi kwenzeka ntoni. Mna eklasini yam utitsala wam owenza ilife orientation athethe into nje aphelele athi i-AIDS kwathi kwathi kwathi aphelele apho. Ndithi miss ndiyacela ngawunabe siyakucela kawuanbe mtasekahya. Athi andifuni ukuxoka andiyazi andazi nto. Ndincame ndinde ndiphakame ndenze lento ebefanele ukuyenza. If bana I department ingabanikeza itranings batrainwe bayazi into abathetha ngayo. (IsiXhosa) I think that life orientation teachers should be young as you said. Someone who can relate to children and with whom the children can relate. I also think they should go for training because you find most of the life orientation teachers don't know anything. They just read what is in front of them and don't explain. They don't know anything. In my class our life orientation teacher just talks and says AIDS and leaves it at that. When we ask her to elaborate she says I don't want to lie but I don't know. I then get up and do what she was supposed to do. I think the department of Education should train them so they know what they are talking about.

Andile Madondile: Ingaba imeko ye culture andazi itradition ayinandima iyidlalayo kuyo yonke lento? Because I believe ukuthi mna njengomntu ongu tata ndiphe ndibe ngumtu ongutata olihlubi uyaqonda kukho amathuba apho ndiqonda ukuba okay xa ndisakuxelelwa ngumntu omgumama abe engayazi imeko yam nagam njengomntu ongutata then yonke lonto leyo andizokuyithatha yonke lento ayitshoyo. (IsiXhosa) Does culture or tradition play a role in communication? Because I believe there are times when I think that, as a man, I can't listen to a woman because she doesn't know my position as a man.

Shalom: Ibuyela emuva futhi wena Andile fanele ukuthi kube ne role  eyenziwayo edlalwayo when it comes ukufundisa abantwana abangabafana on how to respect and know how  to abstain themselves. I have never heard of a message itsiwo directly kumfana abstain. Njalo qho ntombazana ziphathe kahle vala imilenze. That is what you are being told. (IsiZulu) It all comes back to the fact that we have to teach young boys on how to respect and also know to abstain. I've never heard a message of abstinence directed to young men. It is always aimed at young girls. Look after yourself and close your legs. That is what you are being told.

Busi: Nale virginity test yenzekayo KZN yenziwa kumantombaza, what about boys? (IsiXhosa) The virginity testing happening in KZN is done on girls, what about boys?

Luckyboy: Nabafana nabo bane responsibility like education mayenziwe kuwo woyi two lamaside. Because at the end of the day kuhlangana abantu abayi two bayenze ini bayenze umntwana. Intombazana ayizenzeli umntwana iyodwa and kuyinto esingayinaki leyo sivele nje siblame uNokubonga or uBusi ukuthi hayi sowuzithwele manje sowusemchane. (IsIZulu) Young men also have a responsibility. The education should be focused on both. At the end of the day, two people get together and make a baby. A girl doesn't make a baby alone. We ignore that fact and just blame Nokubonga or Busi say they got pregnant while still young.

Shalom: Unganyakazi sizobuya maduzane nje. (IsiZulu) Don't go away. We will be back soon.

Shalom: Siyanamukela futhi ku Siyayinqoba Beat It! Namhlanje sikhuluma ngenkinga eliphezulu loku khulelwa wantombazanyana esemancane kule lizwe lethu. Akhe sibheke udaba olulandelayo oluphuma eMpumalanga Koloni. (IsiZulu) Welcome back to Siyayinqoba Beat It! Today we are discussing the high levels of teen pregnancy in our country. Let's watch this story from the Eastern Cape.

Luvuyo Nibe: Namhlanje sise Lusikisiki. Sithetha nomtwana othandana notitshala. Sicela usixelele ukuba igama lakho ungubani? (IsiXhosa) Today we are here in Lusikisiki.  We are going to speak to a young girl who is dating a teacher.  Please tell us your name and where you're from.

Aphelele Ndamase: Igama lam ndingu Aphelele Ndamase. Ndifunda eHillbrow. (IsiXhosa) My name is Aphelele Ndamase. I attend Hillbrow High

Vuyo: Waqala nini ukuthandana no titsala? (IsiXhosa) When did you start dating a teacher?

Aphelele: Ndiqale ukuthandana notitsala ngo March. Ndambona apha etown, ndandingaqali ukubona ndandiqhelile ukumbona esikolweni so ke wandifuna, ndabesele mna ndamvuma. Ndimane ndimbona esikolweni nje esikolweni siyahoyana njengongathi akukho nto pahakathi kwethu uyabona. Siye sibonane xa kunge Saturday ange Sunday . Xa sise sikolweni asiyithathi ingathi siyathandana. Abantu abaziyo zi friends zam ziyandazi ukuthi ndino titshala. Abanye abaninzi abandazi. (IsiXhosa) I started dating my teacher in March. I saw him in town and that was not the first time I was him, I saw him at school as well. He came and approached me and said that he would like it if I would become his girlfriend. I continued to see him at school but we pretended and nothing was happening. W e see each other over the weekend and in school we pretend we are not lovers. Some of my close friends know that I am dating a teacher, but most people don't know about us.

Vuyo: Mingaphi iminyaka katitshala imingaphi eyakho? (IsiXhosa) How old is the teacher and how old are you?

Aphelele: Utitshala uneminyaka eyi 24 mna iminyaka yam iminyaka  iyi 18. (IsiXhosa) The teacher is 24 years old and I am 18 years old.

Vuyo: Ingaba ootitshala bayayazi ukuthi uthandana netitshala? (IsiXhosa) Do other teachers know about your relationship with the teacher?

Aphelele: Ezinye ititshala ziyandazi ezi zizi friends zakhe ukuba mna ndithandana naye utitsala lo. (IsiXhosa) Some teachers who are his friends know about us.

Vuyo: Ingaba umama wakho uyayazi ukuba uthandana notitshala? (IsiXhosa) Does your mother know that you are dating a teacher?

Aphelele: Umama wam akayazi lonto ndingangxoliswa kakhulu ukuba ingaziwa lonto (IsiXhosa) My mother does not know about this, she would shout at me if she found out.

Vuyo: Ingaba utitshala uke akuphe imali? (IsiXhosa) Does he give you lunch money?

Aphelele: Utitshala uyandipha imali. (IsiXhosa) Yes he gives me money.

Vuyo: Ingaba utitshala unaye omnye umntu osecaleni? (IsiXhosa) Does he have other girlfriends?

Aphelele: Uthitshala akanawo ama girlfriend endiwaziyo nase sikolweni andiqondi ukuba uyaye umntu. (IsiXhosa) He doesn't have anyone that I know of at school.

Vuyo: Ingaba wena unaye omnye umntu osecaleni? (IsiXhosa) Do you have another boyfriend?

Aphelele: Ndinayo enye iboyfriend kodwa  yena utitsala andiqondi ukuba uyayazi ukuba ndinayo. Mna ndinayo boyfriend utitshala yena akayazi nayo iboyfriend ayiyazi ukuba ndino titshala. (IsiXhosa) I do have a boyfriend but I don't think the teacher knows that I do. My boyfriend does not know that I have the teachers as my other boyfriend.

Vuyo: Ingaba xa nisaelana ngesondo niyayisenzisa icondom? (IsiXhosa) Do you use a condom?

Aphelele: Xasilala notsitshala siyazikhusela cause mna ndiya preventer kwaye siyayisebenzisa icondom (IsiXhosa) When we have sex we use a condom and I also use contraceptives.

Vuyo: Ngubani oza necebo lokusebenzisa icondom? (IsiXhosa) Who encourages that you use a condom?

Aphelele: Oyena mntu ucebisayo ukuthi masisebenzise icondom ngutitshala. (IsiXhosa) The teacher always encourages that we should use a condom at all times.

Nokubonga: Yazi mna eyona nto ihleliyo kum yintoba endiyicingayo lomntwana udibene notutshala ngo March abakabina xesha lingako bethandana. Bazakuyisebenzisa le condom but akayazi utitshala uzakujika nini athi akasayifuni ngoku and naye uzakufuma kulanto bendiyithethile kuqala ukuba uzakuvuma kuba efuna imali akhonto angayifumaniyo. So uzakuvuma naye abengayi utitshala ukubangaba upositive okanye unjani. If ukubana uyayifumana lo HIV  uyayiqonda ngoluhlobo ubhuti Andile ebeyichaza  ngayo ukuba uzakuhamba ayosulela le isecaleni i-partner njalo njalo izakunwena kanjalo. (IsiXhosa) The thing that comes to mind is, this girl has been with the teacher since March so they haven't been together for long. They might use a condom but she doesn't know when the teacher will turn on her and say he doesn't want to use it anymore. She will agree because he gives her money and there's nothing he doesn't do for her. She will agree and the teacher will not know whether she is positive or not. If she contracts HIV, as Andile has stated she will transmit it to her other partner.

Busi: Masiqale sijonge i-age difference between Aphelele no titshala. U-Aphelele is 18 which I don't believe. I think she looks 16. Utitshala is 24. Already there is that more than five years difference between bona bobayi two. Which utitshala has been around for ixesha elide. Ngelaxesha -Aphelele ebese ngumntwana ebesoloko e-engaged kwi sex nabanye abantu . So ichances zoba unayo i-HIV zininzi. Njengoko sisitso down the line something like three months down the line izakuyekwa le condom because izakube iqinile i-relationship be trustana bayi yeke icondom. Amosulele aphindele back kumntu wake uAphelele  ayomosulela. Mna I think into mayenziwe abantwana they need to understand  ukuthi utitshala is only there to give them imfundo ukubafundisa ukuba fundisa ngobomi ukubafundisa ngayo yonke into. Eyoba adibane notitshala nesondo ayikho nje esesesikolweni. The same thing with utitshala, utitshala kufuneka nabo babenoxhanduva loba ndingumzali walomntwana ngelixesha engekhoyo umzali wakho apha esikolweni mna bekufanele ndidlala indima yobuzali kulontwana. Ndinoxhanduva olupheleleyo oluvanele ukuba ndiyalunikezela kulomntwana lona. Not intobana ndijonge intombi kufuneka ukuba ndijonge umtwana apha ndibone umtwana wesikolo hayi ukubana ndijonge intombi enokuthi ndiphinde ndilale nayo. Because lonto leyo izaku affecta izifundo zakhe lomntwana lona uzaku enda apha echeeky nakwabanye otitshala because kaloku she is doing the teacher. (IsiXhosa) Let's first look at the age difference between Aphelele and the teacher.  Aphelele is 18, which I don't believe. I think she looks 16. The teacher is 24. There is already more that a five year difference between them. That means the teacher has been around longer than her. He was already having sex with other people when Aphelele was a child. So there are more chances of him being with HIV. As you have said somewhere down the line, maybe in three months they will stop using a condoms because their relationship will be stronger and they will trust each other. They will stop sing a condom and he will infect her. She will go back to her other partner and infect him. What I think should happen is children should understand that the teacher is only there to educate and teach them about life and everything else. Having sex with the teacher is not part of it. The same goes for teachers. They should know that it is their responsibility to act like parents to these children. They have a responsibility to care for these children. They should see these children as pupil and not as girls they can sleep with. It could affect their school work because the child could end up being cheeky to the teachers because she is doing the teacher.

Pholokgolo: (SeSotho) I think at most work places they have labour laws on the walls. Maybe this law about the possibility of a teacher getting fired to be put up.  I think we need to create some kind of awareness about what will happen as a teacher if you get involve with pupil.

Shalom: Njengokuba sesibonile ukukhulelelwa kwamantombazana  amancinane kuludaba olukhulu kwelilizwe lakithi. Ngokucacile aningi abantu abatsha abanena ecantsini ngaphandle kokusebenzisa ityasi lika mkwenyana baziveze futhi emathubeni okosuleleka ngesandulela ngculaza. Lona onguwona mthwalo wabantu abatsha kodwa ngowethu sonke. Uma kunesimo la otitsha beya ochantsini nabafundi kufanele sikhulume ngaso futhi sikuvimbele lokhu. Kumele siququze uwonke wonke azivikele.See you next week on Siyayinqoba Beat It! Until next week Protect yourself, protect others (IsiZulu) As we have seen, teenage pregnancy is a huge issue in our country. Obviously, there are many young people having sex without condoms and exposing themselves to HIV infection. The responsibility for changing this does not mean only lie with young people but with all of us. Where teachers are having sex with learners we need to talk about it and stop it. We need to encourage everyone to protect themselves. See you next week on Siyayinqoba Beat It! Until next week protect yourself, protect others. Bye bye